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New York Health Care Employees Won’t Be Forced To Get H1N1 Vaccine…For Now
Health care workers in New York will no longer be forced to get the H1N1 swine flu vaccine, CBS 2 has learned.
A state Supreme Court judge issued a restraining order Friday against the state from enforcing the controversial mandatory vaccination.
The order came as the Public Employees Federation sued to reverse a policy requiring vaccination against the seasonal and swine flu viruses, arguing that state Health Commissioner Richard Daines overstepped his authority.
Three parties – the Public Employees Federaion, New York State United Teachers, and an attorney representing four Albany nurses – challenged the order and for now the vaccination for nurses, doctors, aides, and non-medical staff members who might be in a patient’s room will remain voluntary.
I can only hope that this is not only a temporary victory, but also very short lived. I can hardly imagine being so selfish and self-centered, to say nothing of short-sighted.
Older people who have been infected with or vaccinated against seasonal flu may have a type of immunity produced by cells that protects them from the swine flu virus, U.S. researchers said on Wednesday.
They said the pandemic H1N1 virus has parts found in earlier flu strains, and some people past age 60, who may have been exposed to similar viruses in their youth, may have some latent immune cells that protect them.
“These findings indicate that human populations may have some level of existing immunity to the pandemic H1N1 influenza and may explain why the 2009 H1N1-related symptoms have been generally mild,” said Carol Cardona of the University of California Davis School of Veterinary Medicine. Her study appears in the journal Emerging Infectious Diseases.
Cardona said cell-based immunity may be serving to weaken the effects of swine flu.
“The meaning clinically is you are going to get sick but it may not be as severe if you had no immunity whatsoever,” Cardona said in a telephone interview.
There may be quite a few people who have had an infection of the genetically related seasonal A/H1N1. I have very little doubt that I have, but I do not know for a fact, and it can be quite murky when we attempt to guess. Since 1978 there have been two strains of seasonal influenza A virus circulating, A/H1N1 and A/H3N2.
Each “flu season” one strain will represent the majority of infections, referred to as “the predominate strain”. And, now that we have A/H1N1-2009 we have actually had three strains of influenza A virus circulating, however, the predominate strain quickly became our pandemic virus – A/H1N1-2009, which now officially accounts for roughly 90% of cases typed. Only a small number of infections are typed so the exact percentage is not known, but extrapolating the ones that are tested we arrive at the 90% of the infections being from our pandemic strain.
The important take away from all of that is even if you had a case of “the flu” last year and think you might be one of the lucky ones who is walking around with a fresh load of these antibodies, you may have had a case of H3N2 and not the seasonal H1N1. Unless infections were tested and typed there is just no way of knowing beyond a guess.
If one wishes to arrive at a slightly informed guess: look up the predominate strain circulating during the time you remember being ill with a case of “the flu”. Chances are, the predominate strain is what you had. Of course, that brings up the question of whether or not you actually had a case of “the flu” in reality, or one of the other hundred odd pathogens that people often confuse with influenza.
We can guess – or we can err on the side of caution and get our pandemic vaccine. I’m going to play it safe even though I’m fairly certain I had seasonal H1N1 back in the late 70’s. For me, it’s just not worth being sick, possibly quite sick, when something so simple as a vaccine will protect me.
The Emerging Infectious Diseases paper can be found here: Ahead of Print PDF.
At “my day job” we have been offered the opportunity to receive our vaccines, seasonal and pandemic [if one can take the FluMist pandemic vaccine], I am pleased to be able to report the uptake rate has been impressive. I assume part of the success has been because our corporate HR department sent around a wonderfully informative memo explaining issues and concerns. Of course, I would like to think that a small part of the uptake numbers has been because I have answered a few questions here and there. However, it may only be coincidental that we’ve had our first cases strike within family and an employee. Whatever the threat is, it “feels” close by — that can be quite motivating, far more so than some “hypothetical – in the future – potential of becoming sick.”
Regardless of the reason[s], I am pleased and proud of the demonstration of my coworkers taking personal responsibility for their health. I could make a strong argument that those of us who are stepping up and getting our vaccines are also doing something concrete to help protect the “health” of our “community” – our fellow coworkers – the ones who do not have the foresight to protect themselves and the ones who cannot take the FluMist vaccine and are waiting for their turn at the injectable version. That wait will be several months long for some, months during which the virus will be actively circulating.
One of the Truly Great Things about America is our Constitutionally Guaranteed Right to Free Speech. Well, such as we still have after political correctness and hate speech sensitivities that is. This very blog is a celebration and testament to my comfort and certainty in my constitutionally guaranteed right to free speech. I can hop on the internet and post pretty much whatever I choose to post and many readers, in the United States and elsewhere around the globe, can hop on the internet at their end and read my words. Of course, there are some countries where freedom to speak and freedom to read are not guaranteed – and in some cases are energetically and jealously guarded against “too much of the wrong thing.”
Because of America’s Grand Tradition, we have all manner of people spouting off about all manner of things, and yes, I am included in that category. The “consumers” of the products of America’s Grand Tradition are not always well served, and on occasion even harmed, by “consuming” the “product” of some other person’s free speech. Someone who listens is invested with the presumption of reason to independently ferret out the helpful, the benign, and the harmful when such “ferreting” is prudent — such as in matters of health and physical safety.
With Global Warming, believing one side’s “experts” over the other side’s “experts” has no ramifications to one’s health or life [despite what one side likes to say occasionally]. As in: we have only ‘X’ years to fix the issue or we’re all going to fry under the parching sun, our cities will drown, and our crops will fail, causing death and destruction on a “Biblical Scale” [my phrase].
Although the issue of Global Warming may chafe and bruise my sense of logic and reason, what I choose to believe and disbelieve will have no effect on whether I, or a minor child in my care and custody, will become ill, possibly severely – possibly even fatally so. The same cannot be said for what I believe about the efficacy and safety of the pandemic A/H1N1-2009 vaccine.
Since I tend to lean rather heavily on “the science”, even if I wind up investing that science with a great deal of “personal emotion”, I do restrict that investment to scientifically credible issues. In other words: an emotional plea is just not enough for me, it has to be backed by science – credible science.
There is little doubt that the issue of pandemic influenza vaccination is driven by a great deal of emotion, on both sides of the issue, but “the science” speaks for itself… assuming one actually bothers to look at the science — even the dumbed-down layperson’s “science” on the issue.
The A/H1N1-2009 vaccine is no different than the seasonal influenza vaccine we have been manufacturing for decades. It is made precisely the same way.
The only material difference is the new HA and NA [the two genes that code for influenza's two outer proteins]. These two genes are swapped in our seasonal vaccine with a certain cyclical regularity, anytime the virus changes enough that the [then] current vaccine is no longer a “good match” to the strain [then] circulating. We’ve had enough of these swaps in recent years that it should not be difficult to remember the news about “pooly matched” vaccines.
The American A/H1N1-2009 vaccine does not contain an adjuvant. Period. The British and Canadian versions will contain an adjuvant, but the US vaccine DOES NOT.
The veracity of the Thimerasol controversy aside: The single dose vaccine for children under six years of age does not contain the preservative, nor does the inhaled vaccine known as FluMist. FluMist can be given to children two and older. The single dose Thimerasol-free vaccine is also being made available to pregnant women. So, if one happens to believe the debunked Thimerasol/Autism link: Please know and understand there are Thimerasol free options available for your children.
Those three very simple – basic – FACTS are easily – and understandably – documented with a simple search of the internet or trip to the local library. Knowing how easy the FACTS are found, FACTS backed up BY SCIENCE and not just “he said” or “she said” or even the very authoritative sounding “Doctor so-and-so said…” I was stunned to find out about – and view – a recent tirade by Rush Limbaugh [video below].
Say what you will about Rush Limbaugh, he is usually much more thorough about checking his facts.
Mr. Limbaugh has fallen victim to the same “infectious disease” as many on the vaccine issue: letting emotions decide a scientifically based medical issue.
Mr. Limbaugh states his doctors have never suggested he receive an influenza vaccine previously, and there is good reason for such: he has always been outside the recommended age brackets, traditionally those over 65, and recently, those under 5, and very recently those under 18 as well. As you can see, Mr. Limbaugh never met the age criteria when the criteria were operative, so he never warranted a doctor’s recommendation to get a seasonal influenza vaccine.
Healthy adults under age 65 have not been viewed as needing a vaccine because with seasonal influenza healthy adults are not usually at risk of severe illness and/or death. That doesn’t mean the occasion severe/fatal outcome didn’t happen, but when it did it was a truly freak happenstance of some really bad luck.
With A/H1N1-2009 the only folk who seem to be getting any sort of “influenza free pass” are the folk older than 65, the very same folks who are at greater risk from traditional seasonal influenza.
That may seem “weird”, or counter intuitive at first, but with pandemic influenza no one has existing immunity. Since A/H1N1-2009 is a “genetic cousin” [so to speak] of the influenza virus A/H1N1 circulating prior to 1957 [when H2N2 replaced it] and after 1978 [when a version was accidentally reintroduced into the human population] some of us are presumed to have at least some pre-existing immunity, those over 65 seem to have drawn the lucky straw on this one and appear to have the most pre-existing immunity.
Those who have never had an infection of seasonal A/H1N1, and there are a goodly many who have not, will not “enjoy” any of the benefits of that pre-existing immunity – at whatever level it may [or may not] exist in reality for each of us as individuals.
There is a blood test that can be done to determine if someone has ever had an infection of A/H1N1, and at what level circulating antibodies specific to A/H1N1 exist. That takes laboratory analysis, a technician’s time, and a lot more money than a vaccine would cost, to say nothing of not being covered by any health care plan one might have.
Or, one can do as Mr. Limbaugh seems to have decided to do: Not be vaccinated and risk being infected.
Mr. Limbaugh is probably almost 100% safe in his gamble – almost a “sure bet” if you will. His age is right to be at little risk, though somewhat more than those over 65, still, not very high. He’s also quite well off financially so if he does suffer a severe infection and lands in the hospital he can afford all those medical bills. And, if he is really – really – unlucky and ends up one of the statistically rare fatalities for his age bracket and general health then he won’t be around to care – or even know – that he was dead wrong.
Mr. Limbaugh is making the decision for himself. He’s a grown adult in possession of all his mental faculties, even if some would question the veracity of that statement, he is. As such, his decision is of no concern to me.
What is of concern to me is that he allowed the propagation of falsehoods on his show for what may have only been a political point. That is the only explanation I can assume given how easily the FACTS – “the science” if you will – could have been ascertained. FACTS that are EASILY ascertained by just about ANYONE, let alone someone with the staff and resources Mr. Limbaugh has at his disposal.
For the record: I haven’t listened to Rush Limbaugh since “Bush Senior” was our president. I do not dislike Mr. Limbaugh in any form or fashion, but neither am I a “fan”. I know him to be a man of intelligence and sharp whit, even if occasionally “flawed” – in the same respect that I myself am flawed [imperfect] – and you are – and you are – and all are.
I am not writing this to score any sort of “point” at Mr. Limbaugh’s expense, whatever he believes and chooses to do is his business [there are no minor children in his "decision tree"], but the same cannot be said for those that tune into his show and heard his emotionally and politically driven tirade propagating and reinforcing the lies and disinformation campaign of the anti-vaccine lobby.
And so I raise my tiny voice to the Godfather of Talk Radio: “Check your Freakin’ Facts man! ‘Cos that is so NOT like you — to get it sssoooooo WRONG!“
If any one, concerned really for truth, undertake the confutation of my Hypothesis, I promise him either to recant my mistake, upon fair conviction; or to answer his difficulties. Two Treaties on Government John Locke
“Any community that fails to prepare, with the expectation that the federal government or, for that matter, even the state government will come to their rescue at the final moment will be tragically wrong,” Michael Leavitt, Secretary of Health and Human Services